Milk/Soy Protein Intolerance - MSPI - READ HERE!!!

[skatty]

Thank you for your reply! Yes I think I will wait for a year, I don't want at upset her at all. I have started power pumping (Iread about it on this site) and am managing to pump extra before bed now. Thank you for your help, I really appreciate it, Katt 

[motherof3]

If you have to supplement with formula you will probably have to find one without any milk proteins in it. Nutramigen still has milk proteins in it.  Abby is on Neocate but you have to get this through a pharmacy or directly from the company.  I don't know where you are located at but I am in the US, not sure if it is available in UK or not but I think you can get it in Canada.

Andrea

[Beata3]

Hi, my 12 month old son was milk intolerant when first born.  I breastfed and eliminated dairy from my diet.  In the beginning of January we introduced cow's milk into his diet (milk, cheese, yogurt).  We did so slowly (started with 1 oz and increased every few days).  He is now getting 4 oz of cow's milk in the morning, and about 2 oz of cow's milk and 2 oz of bm in the afternoon (I am still breastfeeding at night/overnight).  He doesn't have any of the symptoms that he had previously (he had BAD mucousy poops).  But he is more gassy now (which may be from other foods), and he has had some small strings of mucous in some of his diapers (but not all).  So, I am wondering if this is a sign that he still cannot tolerate cow's milk, or if this is just a coincidence?  He has had infrequent bouts of straining to poop, but he has had that off and on since starting solids, so I am not sure that the 2 are necessarily connected.

[Mydreamcametrue]

beata3:  I am curcious to what everyone else says.  My son derft. could not handle Milk or Soy.  He had very bad diaherra and muscous poops.  We switched to Rice milk and his poops cleared up.  NOW, if he has cheese, etc. he gets really stinky gas, but his poops are fine.  If anything he strains a little to go to the bathroom.

I am wondering the same thing!

[FTWIFE]

Craziness! Hear I thought I was faithfully following the Dr.Sears Elimination Diet, and thanks to a past post, thought to check my supplements! Sure enough, my Viactive Calcium Chews (duh!) have milk and my Ultra Natalcare Prenatal Vitamins have a lactose product in it! Can anyone recommend a milk/soy free multivitamin good for breastfeeding mothers? Oh! And a margarine that is milk/soy free too?

[ashti]

Heather,
As long as your lo can tolerate soy oil and lecithin, Nucoa margarine is milk and soy protein free.  I have found it in Safeway and Nob Hill Foods.  As far as the TED, I don't think margarine is added until later in the food testing stage.  For that I think it's safer to use olive oil. 
I'm sure you are doing just fine following the new diet.  Don't worry about not thinking of your vitamins.  It's so hard to think of everything at first.  I hope you get this all sorted out soon, so your lo can be happy and healthy.  Good luck with everything!

[FTWIFE]

Well... my guess is he may not be... today I tried the PrimaCare ONE pre-natal vitamin (took it round 9 a.m.) and he fussed at the breast terribly (for the first time in a LONG time) at his 6:30 p.m. feed. Here are the "inactive" ingredients... D&C Red No. 33, ethylvanillin, FD&C Blue No. 1, gelatin, glycerine, hydrogenated vegetable oil, lecithin, methylparaben, propylparaben, soybean oil, titanium dioxide, vegetable shortening, and yellow beeswax. Is that too soon for the soybean oil and lecithin to affect him? Is vegetable oil a concern too? Is fussing at the breast even a symptom of an allergy/intolerance?

[ashti]

Heather,
What are his other symptoms?  I don't remember dd being a fussy feeder.  Her symptoms were g/i based, such as vomiting, diarrhea, and watery, green mucousy stools.  She also had skin symptoms, such as hives, rashes and eczema.  And she didn't sleep, and had colic. 
So, the fussy feeding could be an allergy, sure, maybe, but it could also be gas or reflux, or something else.  My advice is to keep a food diary.  Log what you eat, when, and any reactions you notice in ds, such as sleep, crying, g/i, skin, or respiratory.  Diaries help you see patterns from foods you've eaten and reactions they cause.
Hang in there. 

[FTWIFE]

Yup... his symptoms, had been vomiting, diarrhea, and watery, green mucousy stools along with the red ring rash around the anus. Doesn't sleep much (usually not for more than an hour and is a silent refluxer all night long.) BUT... otherwise has always had a pretty good tempramnet. (Not colicky). And since I've been on the Dr.Sears Elimination Diet for the past 7 days I can safely say the vitamin was the ONLY change. And he's usually not a fussy feeder, but all of a sudden was... which is why I was worried.

[ashti]

Heather-
Yup, it sounds like he may have a protein allergy problem, to me.  Maybe the fussy feeding was just a flare up of his reflux.  If it were me, I would cut out the dairy and soy for a few weeks to see if that helped.  It takes some time for it to completely clear your system.  If that doesn't help, then you could do the TED or else just eliminate other foods that may also be a problem.  Start your food and symptom diary and keep track. 
Good luck!   

[GraceKellysmom]

I wanted to let you lovely ladies know that I am officially retiring myself from this thread. I know that there are many hands here and knowledgable people, who will continue to help new moms find their way. Best of luck!

[fitfamily]

Curious of experience w/ bf moms and the sleep habits of infants (mine now just 5 mos) BEFORE and AFTER elimination of MSPI.  Trying to see if there is a correlation.

This thread has been such a labor of love for so many of us and our LOs.  Thank you!!

[fitfamily]

Wonder why some LO can tolerate Nutramigen and others can't. 

[First Time Mom]

fitfamily, in our case my dd went from crying all night until 4:30 am prior to her milk protein allergy diagnosis to sleeping peacefully at a normal time after we found out and I eliminated milk products from my diet. Her stools took 2 weeks for the blood to stop but the change in her sleep was immediate, mind you she was only 6 weeks old at the time.

[lostmom]

Thank you so much for taking the time to post the details about MSPI and listing what you can eat and not eat.  I have been dealing with my lo going through stomach problems for last 6 months now.  I tried the elimination diet and think it's the dairy so I stopped it and she is little better.  The doctor keeps saying that she is just a gassy baby and wrote me off as paranoid but I can't watch my baby in pain all the time and not be able to sleep and enjoy.  When she is not in pain, she is a very happy baby.

I have to go back to work so I tried starting her on formula and hates the taste of Nutrimagen and Alimentum.  We also tried Gentlease which she didn't seem to mind.  I mix it with breast milk since she won't drink the formula otherwise.  However, recently, the severity of the problem has increase and she wakes up almost every hour with pain at night. The doctor wants me to start her on solids and teach her to sleep for at least 6 hours at night.

BTW, any suggestions vegetarians on dairy free diet?

I am having hard time setting her routine during the day because she is so cranky and fussy.  All I can give her is breast milk which is not substantial enough so she keeps waking up every 2 hours for feeding at night.  Did you find that MSPI made it difficult to put the baby on a routine?  Any suggestions?

Thank you again for taking the time to collect information and post it.